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Hi tennis fans, just wanted to ask if there are any other tennis forums that you read or frequent. Preferably ones that are more technical or analytical and include men's tennis (unlike Tennis Forum for example).
I've checked out Talk Tennis and Men's Tennis Forums but the vitriol and constant bickering between the Big 3 fanbases is simply unbearable. The unreasonableness of the hate and the users' inability to be balanced in their opinion-voicing is ludicrous. There's a little bit of that here on Reddit as well but the community seems to be reasonably good at downvoting the worst of it; it also helps that Reddit users tend to favour short posts rather than long rants.
I was curious if there are any other online venues apart from this subreddit where you discuss tennis that you have found enjoyable. Thanks in advance!

Motivation: In chess, talent means a specific thing based on a usage by bobby fischer. Bobby Fischer's opinion is that chess relies too much on opening theory and thus invented the variant 9LX that is basically the same as regular chess but without relying on opening theory. For Fischer, talent is how great you are at chess adjusted for opening theory (see 5:55 to 7:05; more here and here [including commentary from SGM Hikaru Nakamura who also makes comparisons to sports in general]), and 9LX is an attempt to measure chess talent. In this way, the Xth greatest player currently (or, resp, of all time) is not necessarily the same as the Xth most talented player currently (or, resp, of all time).

• For example (current greatest vs current most talented): Magnus Carlsen is the greatest player currently in being both the world chess champion and the #1 rated player. However, Wesley So, as the world 9LX champion, is the most talented player currently (at least to the extent that 9LX measures chess talent and that 9LX and chess are similarly administered in terms of tournaments, ratings, etc).
  
• Another example (GOAT vs MTOAT): Similarly, we can say that whomever (whoever?) is(/are) the 'GOAT'(s) (greatest player(s) of all time) of chess (hard to give a definitive answer if you compare time periods, especially considering computers and stuff) is not necessarily the 'MTOAT'(s) of chess (most talented player(s) of all time). So GOAT could be Garry Kasparov while MTOAT could be Bobby Fischer.
  

Now for the point: This is why I'm surprised to see this MTOAT vs GOAT distinction (or in general greatness vs talent) used outside chess, particularly in the olympics.
From a comment on reddit on article on Simone Biles (Olympic champ Biles withdraws from all-around):

She might be the MTOAT (most talented of all time) but her GOAT legacy is definitely affected by her quitting.

Question: So for the olympics (or perhaps physical sports/sports/esports/gaming in general), MTOAT or most talented currently means greatness...adjusting for something? If so, then what? If not, then what does talent mean as opposed to greatness?

Motivation: In chess, talent means a specific thing based on a usage by bobby fischer. Bobby Fischer's opinion is that chess relies too much on opening theory and thus invented the variant 9LX that is basically the same as regular chess but without relying on opening theory. For Fischer, talent is how great you are at chess adjusted for opening theory (see 5:55 to 7:05; more here and here [including commentary from SGM Hikaru Nakamura who also makes comparisons to sports in general]), and 9LX is an attempt to measure chess talent. In this way, the Xth greatest player currently (or, resp, of all time) is not necessarily the same as the Xth most talented player currently (or, resp, of all time).

• For example (current greatest vs current most talented): Magnus Carlsen is the greatest player currently in being both the world chess champion and the #1 rated player. However, Wesley So, as the world 9LX champion, is the most talented player currently (at least to the extent that 9LX measures chess talent and that 9LX and chess are similarly administered in terms of tournaments, ratings, etc).
  
• Another example (GOAT vs MTOAT): Similarly, we can say that whomever (whoever?) is(/are) the 'GOAT'(s) (greatest player(s) of all time) of chess (hard to give a definitive answer if you compare time periods, especially considering computers and stuff) is not necessarily the 'MTOAT'(s) of chess (most talented player(s) of all time). So GOAT could be Garry Kasparov while MTOAT could be Bobby Fischer.
  

Now for the point: This is why I'm surprised to see this MTOAT vs GOAT distinction (or in general greatness vs talent) used outside chess, particularly tennis: Link 1, Link 2, Link 3 (this is about 'GOAT' vs 'BOAT'), Link 4. Some quotes from the 4 links:

1. I don't support this GOAT/BOAT/MTOAT separation idea. Only one GOAT is complicated enough already.
   
2. I don't mind What If? conversations, mind you, but let's call a spade a spade: DN is your favorite player, and you have found a rather selective and sneaky way of trying to procure a slice of the GOAT pie. Or maybe it is the MTOAT? (Most Talented Of All Time).
   

Question: So for tennis (or perhaps physical sports/sports/esports/gaming in general), MTOAT or most talented currently means greatness...adjusting for something? If so, then what? If not, then what does talent mean as opposed to greatness?

I’ve worked in the sports industry for over ten years so I guess I have a bit more of an advantage but my favourite stories are of the following :
Botic thread from 2016 winning Dutch champs https://www.menstennisforums.com/threads/dutch-national-championships-2016-results-discussion.858041/

• schwartzman at some random itf I saw the heart of this guy and knew he’d break through , didnt knkw he’d achieve top ten but his rise was a given to me
  
• Carlos ... he was hyped from young age and glad to see him deliver , him beating Jannik sinner in 2019 Marbella was very fun match where I knew they’d both hit it big
  
• botic vdz funnily enoufh I discovered when watching Dutch championships back in 2016 on YouTube stream , he beat robin haase ... him getting so deep us open didn’t expect and really surprising
  

I did some research on tennis forums around - and the results are disheartening.
Most are just garbage - either paid by "interested parties" (tennis.com, tennis channel, eurosport, espn, etc) or just pure "enthusiast" (read die hard partisans) garbage.
For example - tennis.com is pure Roger outlet. They let the Rafa fans "slide", but the purpose of it is to make the case for Roger.
Tennis warehouse - OTOH is fairly honest and no obstructive moderation, but still - if one is critical of RogeRafa duo, one can expect to be "reminded" of the whole "purpose".
Etc, etc.
But - Menstennisforum (MTF) is the worst of all.
A tennis forum site that exists for over 15 years, and today has $13K yearly revenue (about $35 per day) and the overal value at $15K (which is about the cost of hosting and subscriptions) - should not be allowed to exist. They have about 50 regular "contributors" and a bunch of hound-dogs "moderators" that'll sanction anything and anyone that has something not-so-great to say about Roger.
This place here is the last resort and the last defense.
The rest is garbage and gunk.
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Lets keep it that way.

We're all witnessing the decline and chaos that's happening in the Tennis world today. And it's not because of Covid. The trend of erosion and rotting was there for quite a while.
From the corruption in ATP, unrestrained influence of Big Business (venues, merchandisers, media, etc) on professional tennis matters, accusations of dubious sports-betting houses relationship with ATP and certain players, suspicious behavior of the ITF tennis anti-doping agency and the questionable "vacations" taken by Rafa and Roger, general ATP manipulations of the draws/venues/schedules/points allotments/freezes...etc
It came to the point that analysts are pointing out that Tennis is the most corrupt sport out there - overshadowing even soccer and athletics.
Is it time to rebuild?
Is it time to move on to the new, untainted, uncorrupted organization and system that we can be proud of and not cringe or vomit every time we think about it?
"Sports media" is another stain on this... All the way from the big media houses like eurosport, espn, etc - all the way down to "sports forums" and blogo-sphere.
Everything is bough and corrupted.
This seems like one of the still virgin places - probably because of the perceived impact - but other tennis forums and blogs are the cesspool of toxicity - like, for example, the "menstennisforum" (MTF), which is just a petri dish of gunk and Rafa/Federer gargoils, gnomes and bandana sellers.
Tennis players are dropping out of the tournaments en-masse, there's no trust or pride in the organization or the sport itself...
What are we doing!?
Is it time to break it all down, tear it down, and rebuild anew?

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Rubbing the ball against wet tshirt
https://www.menstennisforums.com/threads/did-millman-use-suspicious-methods-against-federer.984189/

Hey there guys, quick question. How do you think we can expand the league and reach more players. Are there any other subreddits, or maybe other sites? I know about menstennisforums but idk if's allowed to post there.

Based on this admittedly dated link. Felix would be 7th on that list, and none of the top 6 defended their title the following year.

I figured it was a fitting moment to share the GOAT piece of tennis internet history, I'm sure quite of few here have seen it but here it is: http://www.menstennisforums.com/2-general-messages/197166-federer-mother-all-quests-20-slams-100-titles.html.
This thread was made back in 2012. Literally years' and hundreds of pages', thousands of posts' worth of mockery by trolls and GOAT deniers, but six years later....
So what do you guys think? Currently on 96 titles, is 4 more titles possible before he retires?
^{inb4 Donskoy crashes the party again}

This is not a commentary on who has an easy or hard draw or any of that. I just saw this on menstennisforum and thought it was quite remarkable.

I used to frequent menstennisforums during the mid-late 2000s as it was the main place to discuss tennis online; outside of a friend or two, I had no one to discuss pro tennis with so that was my spot.
I haven't checked out the site for a few years so I decided to spend some time there after Nadal's US Open win.
Wow, is that place a cesspool of hate. Requiring every thread to be read in the order it was posted instead of being able to downvote trolls/cunts really does take away from the experience.
This is a great niche sub that is the perfect size at ~60k subs.

First game – Djokovic 0-0 Wawrinka
The first game, it’s serious. We went right at it. To me, it was important. I was super nervous before the match, I had a lot of doubts: ‘Everyone says he’s unplayable. What’s going to happen?’ Once I was on the court, during the warm-up, I tried to take advantage of the situation. I told myself several times: ‘Stan, you’re in the final at Roland-Garros. How often have you dreamed of this? Look at the stadium, look at what’s happening!” In fact, I looked at it as if I were almost having an out-of-body experience. ‘Come on, enjoy! Do your thing!’ I listen to the announcer who’s reading out all of Djokovic’s accomplishments, I look at the crowd to see if they applaud, I look at the sky because it’s a beautiful day …
I sit down on my chair and I switch in a second. It’s easy for me: I can have ten million things going on in my head, but I can switch and concentrate in a second. I’ve done it lots of times. In my chair, I’m already in the first game: ‘How are you going to serve the first point? Are you going to let loose right away? etc.’
I have a very clear game plan, but it’s open to modification. I knew that with him there was no feeling-out round. The proof is the first game. I play incredibly, and yet I’m on serve. Djoko is a machine and the motor is already running.
But, at the end of the first game, everything’s good mentally; physically, I’m fine and I’m not going to lose because of my level of game. It will be played on nerves, hesitations, but not on game feelings. From the very first hit, I feel on top. It’s good, the final has begun …
Djokovic 5-4 Wawrinka – last game of the first set
It’s a key moment. Novak broke me quickly because I was too hesitant. Actually, I haven’t let loose, really get inside him. I have a little mental block. When you’re behind in the score, when you’ve been broken , you always play a bit tighter. You look for something to come back with. But at 5-4, 40-15, I make two points that are essential to the story of the final. First, I make a passing shot. Then I win a point on a dropper. I end up losing the game, and then everything changed for me in my head, but I don’t know why. I feel I’m on the way, I’m there mentally. I needed some sort of small trigger to let loose. I found it there. The match really starts here. It was that game that gave me confidence for the rest ot it. Why? Because I did what I wanted to do at the start of the match. I want to push him, push him, and if he’s stronger than me, good on him. But I tell myself, I’m going to go and get this match. That’s how a lost game can be a release.
Djokovic 6-4 3-4 Wawrinka – at 4-3 in the second set
When I hit the net twice with my racquet, it was the only time I felt frustrated during this final. Why then? Because I’m ahead 4-3, and that since the start of the second set, I feel I have chances to move ahead. And I don’t do it. On the second dropshot, I’m upset because I can’t miss a shot like that when I’m on it. ‘Sh*t, you’re screwing up, don’t miss shots like that!’
From the start of the second set, I sense him starting to hesitate. If he’s hitting dropshots like that, it’s because he’s not finding answers from the baseline. He’s starting to back up on long rallies. At the start, each tried to impose themselves from the baseline. But I start to hit so hard and heavy that he doesn’t quite know what to do from the baseline. In fact, he’s being dominated, and he needs to change something. That’s true of all players who feel they’re being dominated. So, in the second set, he starts to hit dropshots. In the fourth, he’ll serve-and-volley to save break points.
Sure, I see that as something difficult, but against Djokovic, you always walk a fine line. What I mean to say is, Djokovic is different: even when he isn’t playing as well as usual, he’s always present in the moment. That’s why he’s better than anyone else in the world.
Djokovic 6-4 4-5 Wawrinka – final game of the second set
The sound my shots are making is huge. I’m playing with incredible pace. I saw the speed of my baseline shots: 145 kph, 150 kph, 160 kph … The set point, against a lot of players, I win it five times. But he’s getting all my shots back. At the end of the game, I’m at the point I was looking for: I managed to get ahead. I sense he’s nervous, but I’m not surprised: when I play well, I know I make him nervous. I’ve felt that before at the Australian and US Opens. He can’t be serene; after that game, he knows that I can be the stronger one. But it’s not the turning point of the match. Against him, as long as you haven’t won the final point, there’s no turning point in the strict sense.
That gesture to Magnus where I tap my forefinger on my temple, at the end, that’s just a natural gesture. It just means, “I’m there, I know exactly what I’m doing, I won’t let up mentally.”
Djokovic 6-4 4-6 2-3 — Third set break and the the famous backhand hole shot
At 3-2 in the 3rd set, I hit a huge forehand and a backhand down the line. I start to really open the throttle. On top of that, Novak looks at his team with the air of someone asking, “What do you want me to do?” Later at 5-2, there’s the famous backhand from the corner … I say with all humility, it’s not an unlikely shot. After all, I’m four in the world, I’m the final at Roland, which means I’m playing very well. I see the hole and I go for it. I’m very far from the ball, but I control my slide really well to take the ball really low. It wasn’t lucky, I hit it to make it. Besides, three weeks later at Wimbledon against Verdasco, I did it again.
It’s obvious now, I’m bringing the juice. But, before that hole shot, how many shots was I hitting in that zone at 150 kph? And then, the better you feel the more the ball gets close to the lines. It stays inside the court for a good reason: there’s no hesitation. Now I’m really on top of what I can do. That final, it’s the best match I’ve ever played in my career. I feel like a steamroller that wants to finish the job. Once you release the brakes, once you step on the accelerator you just play. I mean, you play the tennis you know how to play.
Djokovic 6-4 4-6 3-6 3-1 Wawrinka — the break back
I win the second set 6-4, the third set 6-3, and yet I’m behind 3-0 in the 4th! I said it before: against him, you walk a fine line. Instead of going down a level, he adds a level. But he submits anyway. You can hear it in his grunt. It’s not the same grunt as when he controls a point. The long thirty-shot rally, it’s to show him that I’m not letting up. I feel him tamed physically. His grunt is different – he’s trying to put extra into his shots. Winning that point makes me stronger. I want absolutely to stay in contact in the 4th set.
Djokovic 6-4 4-6 6-3 4-5 – the final game
I’m still on top, but I’m fried. There are long rallies, we hit, we hit, we hit … he starts to serve-and-volley, he’s at the net more often and I hit a passing shot to break him. I make a simple gesture, and in a half-second I’m already in my next service game. I’m very calm. I walk calmly to my seat. No need for a ‘come on’. After, it’s the last game … I’m serving for the match. And when I need to save a break-point, I don’t panic. I tell myself, ‘If that’s the score, it’s because you’re playing better than he is. At the worst, it’s 5-5. And so? Well, we’ll just start over.’ That frame of mind makes the difference. That detail is probably what bests sums up my final. I couldn’t have had a nicer match point to win Roland. Big serve outside, backhand down the line: that point sums up my whole game and the whole 15 days.
Djokovic 6-4 4-6 63 6-4 – The joy and the ceremony
Already before the Melbourne final, I asked myself what I’d do if I won. Roll around on the ground? Lie on the ground? Fall to my knees? And I did nothing. Afterwards, Gaël told me, ‘Sh*t, Stan! I was waiting for you to do something nuts and you did nothing. I’m crushed!’ I’ll never have an answer, but I think it’s just the way I am. My joy is enormous, but it’s internal. You can’t imagine it, but there are so many things going through my head … It doesn’t come out. And I would dream of rolling around on the clay and having a mythical photo taken. But that’s the way it goes … It’s not because of the way I was brought up, but because of the way I learned my tennis. I never dreamed of winning a Slam. Because I never thought I was as good as those who were there. I saw them all on the TV. To me, those who win Slams are monsters. I have a lot of emotions during the ceremony, but it’s the same thing, I don’t show them. Maybe except for when I lift the trophy. Because, still, it’s THE moment.
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Translation courtesy of Kargo at MTF. Source.

Source: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=148335
Since there are a related post on this: https://www.reddit.com/tennis/comments/3e6s2k/what_matchup_in_the_top_100_has_the_biggest/
1980

• Kitzbuhel: G.Vilas - C.Lewis 6-0 6-0
• Barcelona: G.Vilas - P.Hutka 6-0 6-0
• Barcelona: I.Lendl - J.Torrelbo 6-0 6-0
• Bologna: U.Pinner - I.Dupesquier 6-0 6-0

1981

• Vina del Mar: P.Rebolledo - H.Simonsson 6-0 6-0
• Monte Carlo: G.Vilas - I.Nastase 6-0 6-0
• Washington: G.Vilas - F.Taygan 6-0 6-0
• Sofia: T.Emmrich - F.Meneschincheri 6-0 6-0
• Davis Cup: T.Ulasne - S.Sakamoto 6-0 6-0 6-0

1982

• Hamburg: H.Leconte - L.Palin 6-0 6-0

1983

• La Quita: C.Lewis - E.Adams 6-0 6-0
• Dusseldorf: D.Keretic - Y.Noah 6-0 6-0
• Palermo: J.Clerc - J.Aguilera 6-0 6-0

1984

• Boca West: J.Connors - A.Krickstein 6-0 6-0
• Aix-En-Provence: T.Allan - B.Gottfried 6-0 6-0
• Forest Hills: I.Lendl - J.Connors 6-0 6-0
• Stuttgart: P.Elter - M.Bauer 6-0 6-0
• Cleveland: B.Scanlon - V.Van Patten 6-0 6-0
• Los Angeles: R.Frawley - M.Purcell 6-0 6-0
• Davis Cup: E.Sanchez - K.Harrad 6-0 6-0 6-0

1985

• Tokyo: S.Davis - H.Nihonmatsu 6-0 6-0

1986

• Auckland: B.Schultz - S.Robinson 6-0 6-0
• Bari: K.Carlsson - M.Cierro 6-0 6-0
• Indianapolis: D.Perez - B.Oresar 6-0 6-0
• Bastad: P.Carlsson - N.Kroon 6-0 6-0
• Hilversum: T.Muster - J.Rodriguez 6-0 6-0

1987

• Rotterdam: S.Edberg - A.Maurer 6-0 6-0
• Bari: U.Stedlund - A.Castle 6-0 6-0
• Roland Garros: K.Novacek - E.Bengoechea 6-0 6-0 6-0
• Bologna: K.Carlsson - F.Davin 6-0 6-0
• Wimbledon: S.Edberg - S.Eriksson 6-0 6-0 6-0
• Montreal: P.Cash - R.Saad 6-0 6-0
• US Open: I.Lendl - B.Moir 6-0 6-0 6-0

1988

• Forest Hills: T.Muster - L.Duncan 6-0 6-0
• Rome: A.Jarryd - P.Cane 6-0 6-0
• Indianapolis: M.Robertson - K.Evernden 6-0 6-0
• Livingston: Y.Doumbia - P.Lundgren 6-0 6-0
• Barcelona: T.Champion - M.Tabares 6-0 6-0
• Bari: T.Muster - J.Avendano 6-0 6-0
• Vienna: M.Schapers - P.Palandjian 6-0 6-0
• Wembley: J.Svensson - M.Davis 6-0 6-0

1989

• Guaruja: J.Brown - M.Hennemann 6-0 6-0
• Kitzbuhel: F.Luna - H.Priller 6-0 6-0
• St. Vincent: F.Davin - F.Yunis 6-0 6-0

1990

• Bologna: G.Perez-Roldan - X.Daufresne 6-0 6-0
• Wembley: M.Chang - M.Kratzmann 6-0 6-0

1991

• Barcelona: S.Bruguera - M.Woodforde 6-0 6-0
• Tokyo: M.Chang - J.Fitzgerald 6-0 6-0
• Munich: G.Perez-Roldan - C.Bergstrom 6-0 6-0
• Bologna: M.Vajda - V.Gabarcidze 6-0 6-0

1992

• Bordeaux: I.Lendl - C.Limberger 6-0 6-0

1993

• Doha: S.Edberg - G.Pozzi 6-0 6-0
• Scottsdale: A.Agassi - S.Stolle 6-0 6-0
• Roland Garros: S.Bruguera - T.Champion 6-0 6-0 6-0
• Kuala Lumpur-ind: A.Antonitsch - R.Ramachadran 6-0 6-0

1994

• Estoril: C.Costa - A.Gaudenzi 6-0 6-0
• Toronto: I.Lendl - W.Masur 6-0 6-0
• Tel Aviv: F.Santoro - J.Erlich 6-0 6-0
• Vienna: A.Agassi - M.Woodforde 6-0 6-0

1995

• Bucharest: C.Pioline - S.Dosedel 6-0 6-0

1996

• Sydney: G.Rusedski - C.Arriens 6-0 6-0 -> shortest 2-set double bagel (29 minutes)

1997

• Monte Carlo: A.Corretja - N.Marques 6-0 6-0
• Newport: B.Steven - M.Woodforde 6-0 6-0
• Mexico City: J.Burillo - T.Nydahl 6-0 6-0

1998

• Tokyo: J.Gambill - R.Schuettler 6-0 6-0
• Atlanta: Mal. Washington - M.Tebbutt 6-0 6-0
• Munich (CGSC): A.Agassi - C.Pioline 6-0 6-0

1999

• Nottingham: G.Rusedski - G.Pozzi 6-0 6-0
• Montreal: J.Gambill - J.Robichaud 6-0 6-0

2000

• Casablanca: S.Grosjean - S.Bruguera 6-0 6-0
• Davis Cup: M.Kratochvil - A.Shvec 6-0 6-0

2001

• Shanghai: F.Clavet - S.Jiang 6-0 6-0

2002

• Bastad: G.Canas - A.Montanes 6-0 6-0
• Cincinnai: L.Hewitt - R.Ginepri 6-0 6-0
• Tokyo: J.Golmard - J.Miyao 6-0 6-0

2003

• s'Hertogenbosch: S.Schalken - C.Rochus 6-0 6-0
• Stuttgart: G.Coria - M.Youzhny 6-0 6-0

2004

• Dubai: G.Carraz - O.Bahrouzyan 6-0 6-0

2005

• Auckland: V.Spadea - D.Sanchez 6-0 6-0
• Indian Wells: N.Kiefer - S.Sargsian 6-0 6-0
• Rome: G.Canas - J.Monaco 6-0 6-0
• Umag: J.Tipsarevic - D.Norman 6-0 6-0
• Palermo: F.Volandri - C.Rochus 6-0 6-0
• Shanghai-MC: R.Federer - G.Gaudio 6-0 6-0
• Davis Cup: R.Mello d. D.Josepa 6-0 6-0 6-0

2006

• Miami: C.Berlocq - D.Young 6-0 6-0
• Miami: J.Blake - C.Berlocq 6-0 6-0
• Newport: A.Murray - R.Kendrick 6-0 6-0
• Moscow: N.Davydenko - J.Vanek 6-0 6-0
• Paris: N.Davydenko - C.Rochus 6-0 6-0

2007

• Miami: J.Nieminen - E.Korolev 6-0 6-0
• Barcelona: D.Ferrer - P.Goldstein 6-0 6-0

2008
none
2009

• Buenos Aires: J.Monaco - S.Roitman 6-0 6-0
• Halle: O.Rochus - F.Vicente 6-0 6-0
• Dusseldorf: R.Soderling - R.Schuettler 6-0 6-0
• Los Angeles: R.Kendrick - V.Spadea 6-0 6-0
• Basel: N.Djokovic - J.Hernych 6-0 6-0

2010
none
2011

• Davis Cup: A.Murray - L.Bram 6-0 6-0 6-0

2012

• Doha: F.Cipolla - J.Al Mutawa 6-0 6-0
• WTC: J.Tipsarevic - L.Zovko 6-0 6-0

2013

• Doha: M.Safwat - J.Al Mutawa 6-0 6-0
• Rotterdam: J.Nieminen - D.Goffin 6-0 6-0
• Halle: R.Federer - M.Zverev 6-0 6-0

2014

• Doha: A.Murray - M.Zayed 6-0 6-0
• Oeiras: R.Machado - D.Tursunov 6-0 6-0

2015

• Munich: S.Stakhovsky - M.Ledovskih 6-0 6-0

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1) Why did such a genre appear in porn? 2) Is this a common sector in Czech ? I mean, These porn movies look like these are the first stop for the girls who are in need of money, is it? 3) What is the public reaction for these movies in your country? They don't just care? They like it since, it is a substantial income for the country? They are ashamed of this reputation? Or anything else?
A similar question:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=376105

Taken from http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=597202
Would you rather:

• Win 2 points vs Nadal on a hard court in a 3-set match to win $1 billion. If you fail, you win nothing.
• Guaranteed $300,000. You simply don't play the match.

Nadal will be playing seriously and not just goofing off, so no trying to bribe him to throw.

Season starting next week, so...
Don't know how many of you guys place tennis bets, or how developed tennis market is in US (comparing to here in Europe). Usually it's fairly easy to find good value on day-to-day basis, as tournaments are played every week.
c/p from thread earlier in the month about some key things about tennis betting:
First thing first, don't gamble WTA. If you must, never ever bet heavy favorites. NEVER! Woman are way less predicable as they are physically weaker and serve isn't a major weapon for most of them. Basically sometimes you can count holds of serves as breaks.
Avoid betting favorites playing ATP250 events and favorites by the end of the season (September, October, November). Personally hate big events (Grand Slams) as they bring low value.
Challengers are great for finding underdog value, but require experience and hours and hours watching streams of mediocre guys playing god knows where.
Usual things I try to track before making a bet:

1. Head-2-Head between opponents
   
2. Which surface does each player prefer?
   
3. What kind of style does a player have (power baseliner, serve and volley, grinder, counterpuncher...)?
   
4. Recent injuries? Long layoffs?
   
5. Is the player top seed in qualifications (potential tank due to lucky loser spot)?
   
6. Where is tournament held? Players homeland?
   
7. How does each player preform abroad/at home?
   
8. Previous years results on the tournament? Deep runs, maybe won?
   
9. Has the player had a deep run recent week? Tiredness?
   
10. Is the player on qualifications list for the next weeks tournament? (Doubles tank maybe?)
    
11. Traveling issues? Jetlag due to different continents? When the player arrived on the site?
    
12. Is a player on potential fixer blacklist?
    
13. Do the offered odds seem like a trap? What is the quality differental between the players?
    
14. Mental status? Does the player tend to crumble in crunch time? Mentally weak?
    
15. With which hands do player play? Head to head against leftie players?
    
16. Time spent on court in previous rounds?
    
17. Where is tournament being played?
    
18. Court type? Speed of court?
    
19. Humidity? Wind? Altitude?
    

Sites:
http://www.matchstat.com/
http://www.tennisabstract.com/
http://www.tennisinsight.com/index.php
http://www.menstennisforums.com/
http://www.tennisforum.com/
http://www.itftennis.com/home.aspx
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tournaments/Challenger-Tour.aspx
Livescore:
http://www.tipex.sc/?page=live&sekcia=tenis
http://www.tennisbetsite.com/
http://scores.itftennis.com/?alias=itf
http://www.protennislive.com/lsbtf/main.html?year=2013&wkno=99&eventid=en&tour=&lang=&ref=http%3A//www.atpworldtour.com/challengertour
Streams:
http://www.streamhunter.eu/
www.usta.com/Pro-Tennis/Pro-Circuit/pro_circuit_live/